23 - Post-point-31 Suggestion Tab Additions
Draft one of this list is now complete. Please pardon my Alliance-centric viewpoint; I have no Horde character over level 15.
CITIES
In Dalaran, suggest Dalaran Cooking Award, The Northrend Gourmet, Our Daily Bread[ A:1782 - H:1783], The Cake Is Not A Lie [877] (I've heard you can purchase the chocolate cake recipe from the Dalaran cooking recipe vendor).
Perhaps: Proof of Demise [2019] and Timear Forsees [2018], since the quests in question are dispensed in Dalaran.
In Shattrath, suggest My Sack is "Gigantique" [1165], To All The Squirrels... (since you must /love the ewe in Shatt), Going Down? [964] (on account of being far too easy to accomplish at the Shatt graveyard once you have a flying mount), The Outland Gourmet, The Cake Is Not A Lie [877], Kickin' It Up A Notch [906], Old Man Barlowned [905], Shattrath Divided.
In Stormwind, suggest Well Read, To All The Squirrels... (technically the animals are in Elwynn, but SW is right there), Shave and a Haircut, One That Didn't Get Away (again, technically an Elwynn achieve, but it's right there).
... see comments below before I start hacking out other Azeroth cities.
ZONES
AZEROTH
Assuming this coding doesn't blow a gasket somewhere: in any Eastern Kingdom or Kalimdor zone, suggest Loremaster of the appropriate continent [A: EK 1676, Kal 1678 - H: EK 1677, Kal 1680].
Zul'Gurub - Hero of the Zandalar [957], Deadliest Catch [560]
See note at bottom.
OUTLANDS
I'm debating if it's cruel to suggest Blade's Edge Bomberman [1276] and Bombs Away [1275], because I'm good at those flights and I still can't seem to do them in the appropriate time frame.
Also is it cruel to suggest Medium Rare [1311] and Bloody Rare [1312]? Seeing as how they are, you know, /rare/. (Same goes for Nothern Exposure [2256] and Frostbitten [2257].)
WRATHLANDS
Borean Tundra - Dehta's Little Pita [561].
Grizzly Hills and Zul'Drak - Guru of Drakuru [1596] (Is it possible to not suggest it in ZD before the GH part is complete? This quest chain is so /epic/ you don't want to do the second half first X D. But looking at what little I know of .lua code, I'm not certain that's possible, so... /wishfulthinking? X D.)
Dragonblight - Veteran of Wrathgate [547]
In Sholazar Basin, suggest Honorary Frenzyheart [961] and Savior of the Oracles [962] (complete each of the 8 dailies for the factions).
In Nagrand and Zul'Drak, suggest Of Blood and Anguish [1576].
OK COMMENT BITS.
I find it interesting that I'm eager to have Cooking achievements suggested, yet less eager about the Fishing ones. I suspect it has to do with the comparative ease of cooking vs fishing; fishing takes a certain high degree of patience, and perhaps many players don't want to see Fishing achievements suggested to them that they will never do. (Why be reminded of Old Ironjaw when you're in Ironforge when you've already decided you'd like to keep what little sanity you have left and you'll never even try to fish him up?) Likewise, I have similar reservations about reputations; not for myself, I'm a rep junkie*, but I know other people aren't. When does the Suggestion tab become overful with things people don't want to see? When it is devoid of useful suggestions the user actually wants? I'm not sure how to draw that line.
Is it possible to 'filter' based on checkboxes? (Is that too complex?) Check a box for 'show Cooking achievements,' one for Fishing, one for Rep? Or am I overthinking this and they should all be Suggested and let players ignore what they don't want? Or they should /not/ be suggested because players who want those achievements will already be consciously thinking about getting them and can either use the Search tab or just look them up manually?
( * - I'd list all applicable reputations in any major city or zone where that rep is farmed via kills, IE Stormwind or Zul'Gurub, but not Elwynn. Or perhaps in the case of Northrend, in any zone where one does the vast majority of quests pursuant to that faction; Tuskarmageddon [949] in Fjord, Borean, Dragonblight.)
Also regarding Well Read and To All The Squirrels... do you even want to mess with that? I'll do it if you want to implement it: listing all the zones where those books and animals are. The thing is, players who want those achieves are most probably going to either look up on Wowhead or other sites how to plan the shortest path to just fly around and get them done. Perhaps spending the time to code all the various zones into the Suggestion tab is not the best use of either of our time. (On the other hand, I managed to sell this addon to a friend on the basis of, "It'll put text into your tooltip on whether or not you've read this book yet; get the addon, go to the SW Library, and check it out!" He and his wife are totally hooked on Overachiever now, /anecdote.)
Alright, draft one of this post now done. Sorry for the massive spam of green and red correction text : <. wtb minimize button for that.
| User | When | Change |
|---|---|---|
| Tuhljin | Oct 20, 2009 at 04:16 UTC | Changed status from Started to Fixed |
| Tuhljin | Oct 14, 2009 at 06:01 UTC | Changed status from New to Started |
| Tuhljin | Jan 31, 2009 at 06:15 UTC | Changed component from None to Suggestions Tab |
| SannaSK | Jan 20, 2009 at 16:37 UTC | Changed description:- To be added to as I think of more. Please pardon my Alliance-centric viewpoint; I have no Horde character over level 15. + Draft one of this list is now complete. Please pardon my Alliance-centric viewpoint; I have no Horde character over level 15. CITIES - In Dalaran, suggest Dalaran Cooking Award, The Northrend Gourmet, Our Daily Bread, The Cake Is Not A Lie (I've heard you can purchase the chocolate cake recipe from the Dalaran cooking recipe vendor). + In Dalaran, suggest Dalaran Cooking Award, The Northrend Gourmet, Our Daily Bread[ A:1782 - H:1783], The Cake Is Not A Lie [877] (I've heard you can purchase the chocolate cake recipe from the Dalaran cooking recipe vendor). Perhaps: Proof of Demise [2019] and Timear Forsees [2018], since the quests in question are dispensed in Dalaran. - In Shattrath, suggest My Sack is "Gigantique", To All The Squirrels... (since you must /love the ewe in Shatt), Going Down? (on account of being far too easy to accomplish at the Shatt graveyard once you have a flying mount), The Outland Gourmet, The Cake Is Not A Lie, Kickin' It Up A Notch, Old Man Barlowned, Shattrath Divided. + In Shattrath, suggest My Sack is "Gigantique" [1165], To All The Squirrels... (since you must /love the ewe in Shatt), Going Down? [964] (on account of being far too easy to accomplish at the Shatt graveyard once you have a flying mount), The Outland Gourmet, The Cake Is Not A Lie [877], Kickin' It Up A Notch [906], Old Man Barlowned [905], Shattrath Divided. - In Stormwind, suggest Well Read, To All The Squirrels... (technically the animals are in Elwynn, but SW is right there), Shave and a Haircut, One That Didn't Get Away (again, technically an Elwynn achieve, but it's right there) + In Stormwind, suggest Well Read, To All The Squirrels... (technically the animals are in Elwynn, but SW is right there), Shave and a Haircut, One That Didn't Get Away (again, technically an Elwynn achieve, but it's right there). - + ... see comments below before I start hacking out other Azeroth cities. ZONES AZEROTH Assuming this coding doesn't blow a gasket somewhere: in any Eastern Kingdom or Kalimdor zone, suggest Loremaster of the appropriate continent [A: EK 1676, Kal 1678 - H: EK 1677, Kal 1680]. + + Zul'Gurub - Hero of the Zandalar [957], Deadliest Catch [560] + See note at bottom. OUTLANDS I'm debating if it's cruel to suggest Blade's Edge Bomberman [1276] and Bombs Away [1275], because I'm good at those flights and I still can't seem to do them in the appropriate time frame. ---------------------------------------- WRATHLANDS - Borean Tundra - Dehta's Little Pita [561]. - Grizzly Hills and Zul'Drak - Guru of Drakuru [1596] (Is it possible to not suggest it in ZD before the GH part is complete? This quest chain is so /epic/ you don't want to do the second half first X D. But looking at what little I know of .lua code, I'm not certain that's possible, so... /wishfulthinking X D.) + Grizzly Hills and Zul'Drak - Guru of Drakuru [1596] (Is it possible to not suggest it in ZD before the GH part is complete? This quest chain is so /epic/ you don't want to do the second half first X D. But looking at what little I know of .lua code, I'm not certain that's possible, so... /wishfulthinking? X D.) Dragonblight - Veteran of Wrathgate [547] ---------------------------------------- In Nagrand and Zul'Drak, suggest Of Blood and Anguish [1576]. + OK COMMENT BITS. + I find it interesting that I'm eager to have Cooking achievements suggested, yet less eager about the Fishing ones. I suspect it has to do with the comparative ease of cooking vs fishing; fishing takes a certain high degree of patience, and perhaps many players don't want to see Fishing achievements suggested to them that they will never do. (Why be reminded of Old Ironjaw when you're in Ironforge when you've already decided you'd like to keep what little sanity you have left and you'll never even try to fish him up?) Likewise, I have similar reservations about reputations; not for myself, I'm a rep junkie*, but I know other people aren't. When does the Suggestion tab become overful with things people don't want to see? When it is devoid of useful suggestions the user actually wants? I'm not sure how to draw that line. + + Is it possible to 'filter' based on checkboxes? (Is that too complex?) Check a box for 'show Cooking achievements,' one for Fishing, one for Rep? Or am I overthinking this and they should all be Suggested and let players ignore what they don't want? Or they should /not/ be suggested because players who want those achievements will already be consciously thinking about getting them and can either use the Search tab or just look them up manually? + + ( * - I'd list all applicable reputations in any major city or zone where that rep is farmed via kills, IE Stormwind or Zul'Gurub, but not Elwynn. Or perhaps in the case of Northrend, in any zone where one does the vast majority of quests pursuant to that faction; Tuskarmageddon [949] in Fjord, Borean, Dragonblight.) - More later. + Also regarding Well Read and To All The Squirrels... do you even want to mess with that? I'll do it if you want to implement it: listing all the zones where those books and animals are. The thing is, players who want those achieves are most probably going to either look up on Wowhead or other sites how to plan the shortest path to just fly around and get them done. Perhaps spending the time to code all the various zones into the Suggestion tab is not the best use of either of our time. (On the other hand, I managed to sell this addon to a friend on the basis of, "It'll put text into your tooltip on whether or not you've read this book yet; get the addon, go to the SW Library, and check it out!" He and his wife are totally hooked on Overachiever now, /anecdote.) + Alright, draft one of this post now done. Sorry for the massive spam of green and red correction text : <. wtb minimize button for that. |
| SannaSK | Jan 20, 2009 at 15:47 UTC | Changed description:- To be added to as I think of more. + To be added to as I think of more. Please pardon my Alliance-centric viewpoint; I have no Horde character over level 15. - In Sholazar Basin, suggest Honorary Frenzyheart and Savior of the Oracles (complete each of the 8 dailies for the factions). + CITIES In Dalaran, suggest Dalaran Cooking Award, The Northrend Gourmet, Our Daily Bread, The Cake Is Not A Lie (I've heard you can purchase the chocolate cake recipe from the Dalaran cooking recipe vendor). + Perhaps: Proof of Demise [2019] and Timear Forsees [2018], since the quests in question are dispensed in Dalaran. In Shattrath, suggest My Sack is "Gigantique", To All The Squirrels... (since you must /love the ewe in Shatt), Going Down? (on account of being far too easy to accomplish at the Shatt graveyard once you have a flying mount), The Outland Gourmet, The Cake Is Not A Lie, Kickin' It Up A Notch, Old Man Barlowned, Shattrath Divided. - - Assuming this coding doesn't blow a gasket somewhere: in any Eastern Kingdom or Kalimdor zone, suggest Loremaster of the appropriate continent. In Stormwind, suggest Well Read, To All The Squirrels... (technically the animals are in Elwynn, but SW is right there), Shave and a Haircut, One That Didn't Get Away (again, technically an Elwynn achieve, but it's right there) + ZONES + AZEROTH + Assuming this coding doesn't blow a gasket somewhere: in any Eastern Kingdom or Kalimdor zone, suggest Loremaster of the appropriate continent [A: EK 1676, Kal 1678 - H: EK 1677, Kal 1680]. + + OUTLANDS + I'm debating if it's cruel to suggest Blade's Edge Bomberman [1276] and Bombs Away [1275], because I'm good at those flights and I still can't seem to do them in the appropriate time frame. + + Also is it cruel to suggest Medium Rare [1311] and Bloody Rare [1312]? Seeing as how they are, you know, /rare/. (Same goes for Nothern Exposure [2256] and Frostbitten [2257].) + + + WRATHLANDS + + Borean Tundra - Dehta's Little Pita [561]. + + Grizzly Hills and Zul'Drak - Guru of Drakuru [1596] (Is it possible to not suggest it in ZD before the GH part is complete? This quest chain is so /epic/ you don't want to do the second half first X D. But looking at what little I know of .lua code, I'm not certain that's possible, so... /wishfulthinking X D.) + + Dragonblight - Veteran of Wrathgate [547] + + In Sholazar Basin, suggest Honorary Frenzyheart [961] and Savior of the Oracles [962] (complete each of the 8 dailies for the factions). + + In Nagrand and Zul'Drak, suggest Of Blood and Anguish [1576]. + + + More later. + |
| SannaSK | Jan 18, 2009 at 05:14 UTC | Create |
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- Oct 20, 2009
- Reported
- Jan 18, 2009
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- Fixed - Developer made requested changes. QA should verify.
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- Enhancement - A change which is intended to better the project in some way
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- Medium - Normal priority.
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kiwu May 19, 2009 at 16:13 UTC - 0 likesI think "masking" some classes of achievements so they don't show in the suggestions is the best way. Too complicated? We're talking three checkboxes here, right?
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Tuhljin Jan 31, 2009 at 04:41 UTC - 0 likesAlright, that's a lot of stuff for one ticket. :) I'll see what I can do when I have more time. I've mostly been squashing bugs and making the Trade module work with other addons, but hopefully I'll be able to flesh out the Suggestions a bit more soon. I'll try to pick out a couple "obvious" ones from the above at least and stick them in the upcoming release.